Real Talk: On Being A Thug in Prison


An inmate in Virginia talks to Loen Kelley from Prison Writers about his childhood and what it’s like to be a (self-described) thug in prison. 

This isn’t meant to be a podcast, just a very personal and shockingly candid conversation between two people from very different worlds who’ve become friends over the years.

Loen Kelley talks on the phone with dozens of her incarcerated writers and this is a recording of one of those conversations (with the speaker’s permission of course).

The incarcerated writer describes what it’s like to be raised by a heroin dealer, to knock people off because they cross you, to be shot 9 times and counting — and to still have room in your heart to cry over your deceased father.

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